This is a conversation between Ralph Allison and Charity, a Professor CIE.
Ralph: He says that his counselor/Essence referred to is "I believe to be the Holy Spirit."Now the CIE have been what has been known as the Holy Spirit, as part of the Great Teacher. Well, I'll – I don't know if he wants to hear it , is the problem. His definition of this
Charity: Go ahead and read the definition
Ralph: this counselor regarding Truth, and to convict him of wrong thoughts. That's a big thing, that can depend upon how my eyeballs work. I could be delusional and think it's purple.
Charity: That's correct.
Ralph: I'll be correct from my own viewing of it.
Charity: Right, that is correct.
Ralph: So it's kind of hard to know what wrong thoughts, feelings and behaviors are.
Charity: Correct
Ralph: So he is the one "who indwells me and aids my understanding of the will of the Heavenly Father as well as facilitating a more intimate relationship with God Incarnate Jesus Christ."
Charity: That is nonsense.
Ralph: The he says " it is Jesus Christ"
Charity: So, which is which? We need a clarification of what he means by "inner dwells."
Ralph: Just taking that much, can you give me any clues what he's talking about?
Charity: Laughs-- What he is quoting is that he was "born again." That's what he has been indoctrinated with. This is his "thoughtform" that is entered onto himself that has indoctrinated him unto the idea of what "the Scriptures" state.
Ralph: Coming from his physical live teacher?
Charity: Correct.
Ralph: Which is where it has to start in the first place.
Charity: Correct
Ralph: Thoughtforms start
Charity: Correct
Ralph: Here's where we got that. "It has been given to me upon my request to dwell within me many years ago." So he was a person way past birth.
Charity: That's what we need to have him understand, that is "of Jesus Christ." Again that is a part of The Great Teacher, down to any human.
Ralph: All these people who tell me from the pulpit or from testimonials that they have Jesus Christ as living within them and guiding them everyday, are wrong?
Charity: That's correct.
Ralph: Another sacred ox.
Charity: What guides you is that heard Essence, your Essence, the one who has been taught by the Great Teacher also. "To dwell within me many years ago." When he had "been born again."
Ralph: This says that they were evil up until that moment and then they got the purity, which is what you
Charity: Which is incorrect.
Ralph: Now I'm just saying I always had a problem with that since I didn't feel I was born evil and therefore I didn't have a reason to be cleansed of my a native evilness because I never felt I had it. Now that, of course, makes me peculiar, because then they say, "You must have because everybody is." And I say, "Unh, unh."
Charity: The quote that with Justin and the part of him of him "being reborn" and that part, that is a quote that you need to put to Andy on that aspect.
Ralph: Well, the thing is that in that description that Justin gave he indicated that it was something horrible and evil within him that he gave up.
Charity: But it was nothing that was "horrible and evil". It was the parents. Which is totally untrue, You are a "perfect human being" when you are born and the Essence is brought into you. You therefore have your choice of free will so from that point on, to listen to your Essence.