This is a conversation between Ralph Allison and Charity, a Professor CIE.
Ralph: Now, I have attended only one baptism in a Catholic church and in that baptism the priest very clearly said that their understanding of the baptism was that by sprinkling on the head and performing the ritual, the Spirit of God came into that child. Now, that doesn't sound like anything you have indicated happens with that ritual. Now, let me ask if you have any conception of what that ritual does accomplish, because I've never seen any difference before and after in regard to the children. They don't look or act any differently.
Charity: You want it in regards to the children, or in regards to the adults?
Ralph: This is a Catholic view.
Charity: From the Catholic view of that, they consider, if we understand it correctly, it was a very young child, of less than six weeks, what they consider is that child has been "deposited on this earth as something that has been wrong from the very start." Therefore it must be perfect. And by being perfect is to baptize that child unto "a new existence" and a new way of being viewed into the custom of the church.
Ralph: Well, I had a hard time in understanding how a newborn baby could be imperfect.
Charity: It cannot be.
Ralph: That never
Charity: We don't sanction this.
Ralph: I'm just saying that it always seemed illogical to me. But what did the poor kid ever do? He is just lying there eating his milk.
Charity: He was born.
Ralph: He was born, and he didn't have a chance. Even though he may have had free will, he didn't have much of an opportunity to exercise it. Adults were telling him what to do every day.
Charity: That's correct.
Ralph: Now, in the Protestant church they do not have that concept, it is the parents that are give instructions to raise the child in the religion, and that is simply neutral for the child.
Charity: You have the choice for the adult later if they choose to become baptized.
Ralph: To join the organization.
Charity: And becoming baptized in their way of understanding is that they have "again born defective" but they do not realize it until they have reached a certain age. And then they became to realize it. Once they realized they were defective, they felt there was another avenue that could make them perfect.
Ralph: Is this idea of being born defective part of The Great Delusion?
Charity: Yes. It is all the grand design from The Creator which is what we must emphasize to the humans that no human is born defective. There is "no avenue of the term or the word evil" as that does not exist in our language at all. Because there is no evil in our realm.